Sports Steven Stamkos and John Tavares made the same choice for the same reason

18:01  06 july  2018
18:01  06 july  2018 Source:   msn.com

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John Tavares says memories of cheering for the Maple Leafs as a kid returned to him as he signed a contract A couple of years ago, Lightning captain Steve Stamkos declined this same opportunity. Tavares is a big reason why the Leafs will be considered in that conversation for some time.

a hockey player standing in front of a crowd: Heading in the same direction as far back as 2010.© Photo by Jim McIsaac/Getty Images Heading in the same direction as far back as 2010.

Forget hometowns and taxes, the choice was all about the present vs the future.

Kyle Dubas was a guest of Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman on the 31 Thoughts Podcast, and he said some things everyone knows about by now. He said the Leafs can and will keep the Big Four. He said he’s not going to tell what was in the video they showed to John Tavares, and he said that it was the players on the Leafs that sold Tavares on the move.

He didn’t mean directly, although he told a story about how the players came to him when they learned that the team was in on Tavares and asked how they could help. What he meant was that the choice for a player signing as a free agent is about who he is going to be playing with.

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The Stamkos lesson. The blueprint for convincing John Tavares to choose the Leafs over the Islanders was no deep secret. But it worked. ( Stamkos ) probably felt differently then. If he hadn’t made that decision, who knows?

So today, let's walk through the Five Stages of Realizing the Leafs Signed John Tavares . Everything will make more sense if we can all get on the same page. We'd been burned once by Steven Stamkos , back in 2016, so we knew not to get our hopes up.

Marek asked Dubas specifically about the way the Maple Leafs presented to Steven Stamkos two years ago, and the emphasis then on endorsement opportunities, and Dubas hedged around saying that was the wrong approach. What he did say was that at that time, the Leafs could only talk about the team in terms of potential. And as Lou Lamoriello likes to say, potential is just the things you haven’t done yet.

And therein lies the root of the choice made, both by Stamkos then and Tavares now. They aren’t opposite decisions: one for the Leafs, one not. One for the team that drafted him, one not. They are the same choice, made for the same reasons. The choice was for what the team is now over what it longs to be: the reality vs. the potential and the concrete over the merely possible.

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But that's two writers with clean reputations both floating the same idea about the same player at the same time. Before we can start debating whether Stamkos and John Tavares would be more effective together or on separate lines, we run into our first problem.

Dubas made it clear that Tavares was choosing, after midnight passed on June 30, between Toronto and the Islanders. And as we all know, Stamkos chose Tampa over Toronto days before the deadline.

At the time Stamkos made that choice, the Lightning had just come second in the Atlantic and the Leafs were last. Last got the Leafs Auston Matthews, and second got the Lightning to the Conference Finals and a game seven against the eventual champions, the Pittsburgh Penguins.

The Lightning were a good team, maybe a great team, and the Leafs had potential. What Stamkos was picking was Nikita Kucherov and Victor Hedman, Jon Cooper and Steve Yzerman, Andrei Vasilevskiy and Tyler Johnson. Anton Stralman and Ondrej Palat.

All the Leafs had to counter that was some hopes and dreams for the Big Three, who had played a combined 22 NHL games at that point. Oh, and the chance that if they could find a goalie somewhere, maybe they could score their way up the standings enough to make the playoffs.

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The same quotes made the rounds to three stories, and each one has a headline that seems to want take In speaking with Sportsnet 590 on the 19th, he gave some insight into what Steven Stamkos went through Tavares ’ situation is not like the Steven Stamkos ’ one from a couple of summers ago.

This summer, Tavares got to pick between the Leafs, who were third in the Atlantic, and the Islanders, who finished three points out of last in the Metro—just ahead of the Rangers, who’d tanked on purpose.

The choice is not nearly as stark. The Islanders have made the playoffs in the past. The year before Stamkos signed, they were a victim of the Lightning in the second round. And this year, the Leafs went down in game seven two rounds earlier than the Lightning had in 2016. The Leafs were not already a maybe great team, they’d only just roared through the stop sign and arrived at good. The Islanders were not mired in last place in the entire NHL, they were just without any sort of defence or reliable goaltending.

But the reasoning is the same. The Islanders, now that they’ve finally, way, way too late*, reorganized their management to fix the mess the team is in, could only claim to be heading in the right direction. They aren’t there already.

* Note to Islanders fans: No one is more qualified than us to look squarely at a hockey team and see the mistakes management has made piled so high, they feel like walls closing in on you. We know exactly where you’re at, how it feels, and how hopeless it all looks. We get it. And we get that you don’t want to hear this from us. I’m telling you anyway: You’re tanking, and it’s the smart play.

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This was the players’ part of the push to bring Tavares to Toronto. He heard from Steven Stamkos in Tampa, from Patrice Bergeron in Boston, from many Like walking down the aisle and breaking up in the very same day. “Athletes work on instincts,” said Shanahan. “They’re not used to making decisions.

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Tavares didn’t turn his back on the noble Islanders any more than Stamkos snubbed his hometown team. Tavares picked Mitch Marner and Morgan Rielly. Auston Matthews and William Nylander. He picked Frederik Andersen, and maybe that name should have been first. He picked Nazem Kadri and Jake Gardiner. He picked the youth and skill and both the potential and the reality of the Leafs now and the future.

He picked the Leafs because the team is good enough now. And while Mat Barzal, Anthony Beauvillier, Anders Lee and all those tasty players who were just drafted are also brimming over with potential, they’ll realize that potential some other year than this one.

Both Stamkos and Tavares picked now over someday. Stamkos had the easier call, so it’s not so surprising he made it faster.

Dubas, in discussing the Leafs on the podcast, turned the conversation away from himself as deftly as a defenceman clearing the front of the net. He said the accomplishments of the Marlies this year were about the players and all of the staff, not him. The Leafs right now are good because of all the people who work to make them good, and he puts the players at the top of the list.

It’s such a refreshing change from teams that seem almost to resent the need to even have hockey players on their teams. Watching John Tortorella and Jim Rutherford have a public spat over Jack Johnson, of all people, is fun, and waiting for the traded players to speak ill of their former teams adds drama to the summer, but the boringly non-dysfunctional Leafs got accolades from Tyler Bozak and well wishes from the other departing UFAs too.

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This year, John Tavares has stepped into Stamkos ’ shoes. becomes a completely unrestricted free agent and the maximum term the Islanders can offer becomes the same as any other team: seven years. When Tavares makes his choice , the rest of the dominoes will fall. That could include the

Another star center and captain from the Toronto area, Steven Stamkos , could have gone home as an unrestricted free agent two years ago. Tavares almost did essentially the same and stayed with the New York Islanders, the team that Now Toronto has made the playoffs in back-to-back years.

Dubas returned those well wishes on the podcast, with sincerity. And in all of this, he’s very much like Lamoriello, who has his aphorisms about the logo on the front, not the name on the back. That’s just a way of saying the team comes first. What Dubas says is that the players are the team, and then he extends that to include everyone who works for the organization to better the team. It’s a slight difference in emphasis, but it comes from the same sort of place.

One thing that both Stamkos and Tavares decided was that it wasn’t their place at age 27 or so — and with nothing left to prove to anyone about how great they are as players — to build a team from the ground up. That’s a younger man’s job. And it’s hard to fault either of them for thinking that in an era when the clock ticks very loudly on a player’s career post age 25.

That doesn’t mean either of them are guaranteed a cup or even a better chance at one where they chose to go than the teams they said no to have. Fortunes rise and fall in the NHL. A team is the players. All of them, not just one star. So it’s not wrong for a star to chose a team that’s arrived at good instead of one that just has hopes it’s on the right road.

And that is also exactly why Dubas emphasized to Tavares that he wasn’t trading away any of the Big Three. It’s not just that he can manage simple arithmetic, unlike a lot of pundits who have been claiming for years there won’t be cap space for all three. There’s no point in Tavares coming to the Leafs if they have to stop being the Leafs because he signed on. And that’s why it is now the Big Four, and it will be for as long as they all want to play here.

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